Annette Rubery has now posted her recording of our discussion about Vanbrugh if you want something to listen to while cooking.  It’s quite a bit longer than the transcript:-

https://annetterubery.substack.com/p/q-and-a-with-charles-saumarez-smith-7fa?utm_source=podcast-email%2Csubstack&publication_id=2641061&post_id=171544020&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=play_card_show_title&r=izzy2&triedRedirect=true