I have discovered what has happened to my conversation with Bendor Grosvenor last week, which is that it has been interleaved into his Sunday morning weekly conversation with Waldemar Januszczak called Waldy and Bendy’s Adventures in Art (https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-s9cbp-fe443d). You have to listen nearly to the end, but the rest of the programme is, I think, well worth listening to as well – a couple of what Neil Cossins would call ‘grumpy fundamentalists’ ruminating and reflecting on their experience of the art world: the recent sale of an NFT (a nonfungible token for those like me who still think the NFT is where you go to see old films); the idea that Reading Jail might be turned into an art centre; the decision by Tate to postpone its exhibition by Philip Guston and the subsequent departure of Mark Godfrey, its curator (is free speech in museums still allowed ?); whether or not the Tate has now become like the French nineteenth-century Academy ruling the art world with its own political orthodoxies; and then me talking to Bendor about the potential refurbishment of the Saimsbury Wing, the role of architecture in the experience of art, the cost of modern conservation, and whether or not Tate should rely on Wikipedia for its knowledge of the lives of artists. I think I can recommend it, however much I hate listening to myself, always talking so much more slowly than I think I do in my head.
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