On Friday afternoon, I had a psychologically intense and probing conversation about the current state of museums with Max Anderson, who, like me, ran several – the Art Gallery of Ontario, the Whitney Museum, the Indianapolis Museum and the Dallas Museum of Art. He now runs a weekly podcast out of his office in New York called Art Scoping in which he picks someone to have a wide-ranging discussion. So, this week, we talk about museums, how they’re changing, why they’re changing and whether or not it’s a good thing, including reference along the way to Oliver Dowden and the government’s desire to control museums and whether or not museum directors should still be art historians. It’s the first time I’ve talked at any length about my book. It’s half an hour.

http://www.maxwellanderson.com/artscoping/2021/3/5/episode-50-charles-saumarez-smith